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20Product: How to Design and Build Products in a World of Agents | Why AI Will Kill Many SaaS Products | What Products Will Thrive and Die in a World of 100M Developers with Matt Biilmann, Co-Founder and CEO @ Netlify

14/03/2025
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Matt Biilmann is the Co-Founder and CEO @ Netlify. Under his leadership, Netlify has become one of the fastest-growing platforms for modern web development. Matt recently introduced agent experience (AX), a new way of thinking about how software is built and experienced in the AI era. Matt is also known for coining Jamstack, a concept that redefined how developers build for the web. 

In Today’s Episode We Discuss: 

03:43 How Does the Design Process Change When Designing For Agents

06:27 How Does the Product Building Process Change When Building for Agents

12:52 Will AI Kill SaaS Tools

16:12 If Prototyping Becomes Phase 1: Does Figma Survive?

17:35 Is Chat the Best Interface for a World of AI

21:52 Why AI Services Will Be One of the Biggest Economies

27:24 Open vs. Closed Platforms in an Agent-First World

31:09 Specialization of Large Language Models

35:13 Shifting Labor Costs to Agent Spend

36:28 The Future of Stripe and What Happens with 100M Developers in the World

38:39 Quickfire Round: Insights and Predictions

 

Matt Biilmann is the Co-Founder and CEO @ Netlify. Under his leadership, Netlify has become one of the fastest-growing platforms for modern web development. Matt recently introduced agent experience (AX), a new way of thinking about how software is built and experienced in the AI era. Matt is also known for coining Jamstack, a concept that redefined how developers build for the web. 

In Today’s Episode We Discuss: 

03:43 How Does the Design Process Change When Designing For Agents

06:27 How Does the Product Building Process Change When Building for Agents

12:52 Will AI Kill SaaS Tools

16:12 If Prototyping Becomes Phase 1: Does Figma Survive?

17:35 Is Chat the Best Interface for a World of AI

21:52 Why AI Services Will Be One of the Biggest Economies

27:24 Open vs. Closed Platforms in an Agent-First World

31:09 Specialization of Large Language Models

35:13 Shifting Labor Costs to Agent Spend

36:28 The Future of Stripe and What Happens with 100M Developers in the World

38:39 Quickfire Round: Insights and Predictions

 

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